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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:45 am 
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some players got too many books , but some players got zero.

it was really unfair to the players that cant join in the event.

someone maybe gets a +4book through full year hard farm,someone easy to gets many from all kinds of events.

is it really not a role play server? why do some DMs so like to give ppl gifts?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:15 am 
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someone has too many +4books

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:06 pm 
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There is some merit in what you say in that, of late, the generosity of Pan and Hanseath have been pouring forth in abundance. Balor events, EPWs with duplicate bosses that have an anvil-able tome, etc. It is true that if you tend to miss these things, other players will progress much quicker than you in terms of wealth and toon progression. I know how that feels, seeing as how there have been times when I missed a couple of extended edition balor events where some people got 2 or 3 toons to 40. Did I feel jipped? You bet. Did I feel the that the DM should change what he's doing? Not at all.

I have always accepted the fact that DMs can be whimsical beings, giving you boons in one turn and dying you purple the next. This is their job; to spice up the world and impose their godly influence in accordance with DM rules, not to be confused with NS4 Commandments. In all their events they have shown no major bias toward a single player or faction. They always make sure to offer equal opportunity for most of those ONLINE at the time they execute their plans. This is an unavoidable truth for every online game. If you're online more often and participate more often, you're exposed to opportunity more often. What about people that can't make it to EPWs (where many times a DM book can be found)? Unfortunately, no schedule will accommodate everyone. We just have a schedule that that was democratically voted to fit most, therefore it is as fair as it gets.

On the subject of book farming; books were never meant to be farmed. Those who choose to farm know full well the odds. I've had some of the old timers in my parties lament at how they farmed for weeks on ogre mountain and got nothing, comparing it to the times they could find multiple books in a day. Yet, they accept how sporadic it can be and don't dwell on how much other players may be hoarding. I choose not to farm books because I like doing other things, like building toons is plenty fun for me. I score a book here and there on my way to 40 and I occasionally do receive a DM book when lucky. I make it to most EPWs and get shots at rolling for DM books among the loot piles as well. Needless to say, I am fine with the way things are.

Your complaint is just one, but enough of them together may sway the deities. One day the DM books may stop flowing for one reason or another. Until then, do not be discouraged at the disparate distribution of books. It's just a fluctuation. You may find that one day you'll be on the benefiting end of some other DM shenanigans and you will not want them to stop.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:36 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:43 pm 
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If you don't mind me asking, are those screenshots of your own toons?


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:01 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:17 am 
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So you're saying that you logged into other people's accounts, rifled through their character sheets, and then posted screenshots of them on the forums for everyone to see?


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:11 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:14 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:54 am 
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You log into other peoples toons, screen shot their character sheets, post them, and have the gall to complain about the DMs?!?!

If you're not banned yet, you sure as hell should be!

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:05 pm 
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Logging in with someone else's account, even if its only to the toon selection screen, is not taken very lightly by the devs or DMs, however well intentioned you may have been. Though the cdkey lock is active by default, accessing even the toon selection screen gives you full access to the build of the toon you're spying on. This level of spying is downright inappropriate and incredibly unfair, usually punishable by temp-ban or even perma-ban.

Judging from your reaction, you may have thought it was harmless to investigate some of your hypotheses, but just know that accessing someone's character selection screen is a huge violation of trust between the players here. This is not some mainstream MMO where players do whatever they want without regard for other players. We have been operating here for years based on mutual understanding that we will not touch anything that doesn't belong to us. Yes, it is very tempting to peek at other accounts. I'd love to see what wondrous builds can be found in Bargeld's or JP's accounts. But my respect for them is very great and I cannot bring myself to peek. I must find out by clashing with them. Trying to figure out how many books are spent in one account is no exception. You must figure it out by observing them in-game.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:18 pm 
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